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youyou2btoo (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)
oh, and i believe in god heh, yet science is still "permitted" to exist in my world lol... silly people and their need to separate things!
youyou2btoo (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)
omg this guy is brilliant. this vid makes me subscribe... you actually know what things are! i love youtube.
SunscorchX (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)
It's rare that I come back to reply to comments, but I think this is an important point.Teachers that espouse ID are not fired because they are voicing their opinions, but because they are not doing their job as laid out in their contracts.There is nothing unlawful about firing an employee who is not doing their job.(This is my new account, by the way)~Joe
R00308543 (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)
I am believer in Intelligent Design, but I also know that Eolution is possible. But all that means is that GOD CREATED EVOLUTION..DuhHackman I thought you were a girl with a heavy voice. You're creepy...
veritasodivmparit (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)
Oh dear! ID is 'study of the physical world' or intelligence 'all on its own'? Do you realise just how ridiculaous both those comments are?Suppression of free speech? haha! What the ID'ers and Creationists are saying here is that those nasty scientists won't listen to us - even if we produce fallacious, non-scientific piffle designed to support scripture. Because they demand that we comply with scientific process - we're gonna claim denial of free speech.Exercise some common sense!
DiminishedStudios (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)
I think you are coming from the few point that if we allow intelligent design to be studied then we might as well just roll out the scrolls, and start teaching the Bible. This is absurd. For in that case it would be logically equivalent to say that science has the bias of teaching us anti-religion. I don't believe that is the agenda of true science. Wether or not Ben Stein has got all of his facts straight, the point of the movie is about not suppressing freedom of speech, or inquiry. Thanks
DiminishedStudios (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)
First of all let me remind, or inform you that ID is not a direct referral to God. It is the study of the physical world, and understanding that it works with a great amount of intelligence wether it stems from a Designer, or if its just intelligence all on it's own. For instance we can see that the human cell has tremendous complexity. There is nothing wrong with realizing that their appears to be intelligence within the workings of the cell.
mrhumpty (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)
Fantastic points although I think what you missed about the First Amendment part was Government Schools firing teachers for discusing ID. I agree it's not even remotely a scientific theory/hypothesis etc. But, when a Government sponsored entity punishes a citizen for saying something that's a violation of the 1st amendment... how to fix? get rid of Government Schools :).Otherwise, bravo!
Mctaffity1 (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)
Suggesting there are two sides to this debate is like suggesting the scientific community is split on the shape of the Earth; round or flat. That's clearly nonsense, and whatever you believe Evolution is FACT. It is not a "state enforced religion" as it has no god, and is specified by the world-wide scientific community, not the state. It has also been subject to many revisions as new evidence has come to light (this is called science), and is not a rigid dogma as creationism is.
weedipikia (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)
Good points |
